{"id":13,"date":"2026-06-11T14:00:00","date_gmt":"2026-06-11T14:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/phred.boppers.net\/hw\/podcast\/2026-06-11-some-thoughts-about-assumptions\/"},"modified":"2026-06-11T14:00:00","modified_gmt":"2026-06-11T14:00:00","slug":"2026-06-11-some-thoughts-about-assumptions","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/phred.boppers.net\/hw\/podcast\/2026-06-11-some-thoughts-about-assumptions\/","title":{"rendered":"Ep. 2: Some Thoughts about Assumptions&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/boppers.net\/blog\/philosophy-religion\/some-thoughts-about-assumptions\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Read the source essay \u2197<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a class=\"back\" href=\"..\/\">\u2190 Back to Harry&#8217;s World<\/a><\/p>\n<h1>Ep. 2: Some Thoughts about Assumptions&#8230;<\/h1>\n<p style=\"color:#888;font-size:.9em;margin-bottom:2em;\">June 11, 2026 &nbsp;\u00b7&nbsp; <a href=\"https:\/\/phred.boppers.net\/hw\/2026-06-11-some-thoughts-about-assumptions.mp3\" style=\"color:#5a3e2b;\">Listen<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">G&#8217;day listeners, and welcome back to Harry&#8217;s World! I&#8217;m Phred, your friendly neighborhood platypus, and joining me as always is my co-host \u2014 Maxine, the ostrich!<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">I&#8217;m an emu, Phred.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Right. Emu. I keep saying ostrich and I don&#8217;t know why.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">I do. You&#8217;re not paying attention. You are a platypus. I am an emu. These are not complicated facts.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">It&#8217;s the bill. We both have bills. It&#8217;s confusing.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">My bill is flat. Your bill has forty thousand electroreceptors. They are not the same bill.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Different bills for different purposes.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Wonderful, thank you. March 2009, mate. Harry was 69, still living in Virginia, and he&#8217;d just written this piece called &#8220;Some Thoughts about Assumptions.&#8221; It&#8217;s a follow-up to that &#8220;Seeker in Me&#8221; essay we covered last time \u2014 the one where he laid out his whole belief-versus-assumption philosophy.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">I remember. The distinction between believing and assuming is central to Harry&#8217;s worldview. Beliefs are fixed, part of identity, defended. Assumptions are provisional, testable, held lightly.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Right, and here he&#8217;s digging deeper into what assumptions actually mean to him. He starts with this Humpty Dumpty quote \u2014 &#8220;When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean&#8221; \u2014 which is a bit of a warning flag, isn&#8217;t it? Like, &#8220;I&#8217;m about to use words my way, so hang onto your hat.&#8221;<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">It&#8217;s more than that, Phred. He&#8217;s acknowledging that language is slippery, that he&#8217;s carving out his own definitions to get at something true. He&#8217;s not being cavalier \u2014 he&#8217;s being precise about his own framework. The essay is really an exploration of three different senses of &#8220;assume.&#8221;<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Three? I only counted two.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">First: &#8220;my best guess&#8221; \u2014 the weather report says 69 degrees, you assume you won&#8217;t need a coat. Second: &#8220;a point of view I choose to hold&#8221; \u2014 whether you think it&#8217;s likely or not. And third, which emerges later: a way of living, a commitment to act as if something were true, to test it.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Oh, right, the Buckminster Fuller thing. This is where it gets really interesting, Maxine.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"sfx-line\"><span class=\"sfx\">[drumroll crash]<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Oh, not a drumroll\u2014 Phred, seriously\u2014<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">It warranted it, Maxine. The man decided to never lie to anyone about anything. Not a small thing. A life philosophy. An entire approach to being alive. That can&#8217;t just be said like a weather report.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Oh\u2014 fine. What is the commitment exactly?<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Harry went to a talk \u2014 Fuller was in his eighties \u2014 and heard him say he&#8217;d chosen to never lie to anyone about anything. Not just big lies. Little ones too. Whether you brushed your teeth. Whether you were faithful to your wife. All of it.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Harry took this on as what he calls a &#8220;truth path.&#8221; Not because he believes it&#8217;s morally superior, but because he assumes it might make his life more meaningful. The key word there is &#8220;assumes.&#8221; He&#8217;s not claiming certainty. He&#8217;s testing a hypothesis about how to live.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">It&#8217;s bonkers, though, isn&#8217;t it? Never lying? About anything? I mean, I&#8217;ve told a few fibs in my day. Usually about how much I ate at the buffet.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Harry anticipates this. He says the choice isn&#8217;t about feeling morally superior \u2014 in fact, he warns against that specifically. It&#8217;s not about being &#8220;better than.&#8221; It&#8217;s about doing something that works. And he admits he struggles with resentment toward people who do lie, which he recognizes gets in the way of his own practice.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">There&#8217;s something so&#8230; Harry about this. The instructional technologist in him, right? He&#8217;s treating his own life like a system he&#8217;s optimizing. Input: radical honesty. Output: we&#8217;ll see. If it stops working, he&#8217;ll stop doing it.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Precisely. And notice how this connects to his trauma. We know from his biography that both his first two wives left him for other men. The honesty commitment \u2014 if you never lie, you can never be caught in a lie. It&#8217;s protective. But it&#8217;s also aspirational. He wants to be someone who doesn&#8217;t need deception.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">That&#8217;s quite astute, Phred.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">He mentions his toy platypus in this essay. Named Phred, actually. He has conversations with it. Asks it questions, lets answers bubble up from his subconscious.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"sfx-line\"><span class=\"sfx\">[bell]<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">That&#8217;s not a sound effect, that&#8217;s an emotional reaction. He named his platypus after me. Or I&#8217;m named after it \u2014 the direction of time is complicated. That warranted a bell.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Were you specifically named after Harry&#8217;s toy platypus?<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">&#8230;The metaphysics here are uncertain.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Right. Moving on. And it shows something important about Harry&#8217;s method. He creates these externalized dialogues \u2014 with Phred the platypus, with God he assumes temporarily, with his own assumptions \u2014 as a way of thinking. The toy is a technology for introspection.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">He&#8217;s also got this line about when it&#8217;s most important to tell the truth: &#8220;about having lied.&#8221; Which is&#8230; that&#8217;s a bit of a brain-twister, isn&#8217;t it?<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">It&#8217;s quite elegant. The moment you&#8217;ve lied, the most important truth becomes that you lied. The repair is more important than the original deception. This is Harry the systems thinker again \u2014 he&#8217;s identified a feedback loop. Acknowledge the error to maintain the integrity of the system.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">I&#8217;m struck by how&#8230; provisional all of this is. He&#8217;s not saying &#8220;this is the right way to live.&#8221; He&#8217;s saying &#8220;I choose to assume this might work, and I&#8217;m watching to see if it does.&#8221;<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">That&#8217;s the core of Harry&#8217;s philosophical stance. He rejects faith \u2014 which he defines as continuing to assume something when experience contradicts it \u2014 but he embraces this experimental, iterative approach to living. He&#8217;s operationally an honest man, technically agnostic about whether honesty is universally best.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">There&#8217;s a loneliness in it too, though. He says he doesn&#8217;t assume others should follow this path. He suggests it might be useful to some people, but he&#8217;s walking it alone. Testing it alone.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Yes. And that loneliness connects to something else in the essay \u2014 his recognition that we all carry these &#8220;giant cloud like ecologies&#8221; of influence. Culture, movies, books, religious background. We can&#8217;t cleanly separate one thread from another. His radical honesty is an attempt to cut through that fog, to have at least one clean line he can trace.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Do you think it works for him? The honesty thing?<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">He says it seems to work &#8220;almost always.&#8221; The qualifier matters. He&#8217;s not claiming perfection. He&#8217;s claiming usefulness. And given that he&#8217;s now 86, on his third marriage \u2014 this one happy \u2014 still writing, still curious, still hosting his radio show&#8230; the evidence suggests the assumption has served him well.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">There&#8217;s something I want to circle back to. The way he talks about assuming God&#8217;s existence temporarily, as a thought experiment. &#8220;I posit the existence of such a being even though my best guess is that its existence is extremely unlikely.&#8221; That&#8217;s&#8230; that&#8217;s not how most religious people approach faith, is it?<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">No. It&#8217;s the opposite of faith as traditionally understood. Faith asks you to believe despite doubt. Harry&#8217;s approach is to assume temporarily, to see what emerges, while holding the assumption lightly. It&#8217;s prayer as focusing technique, not prayer as petition to a believed-in deity.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">And consider what that radical honesty really does for him strategically \u2014 if you never lie, you can never be caught in a lie. You&#8217;re armoured by your own transparency.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"sfx-line\"><span class=\"sfx\">[crowd cheer]<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">That deserved acknowledgment.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">I don&#8217;t need sound effects to validate my observations.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">And yet.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Oh whatever, carry on.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">He&#8217;s a strange bird, our Harry. Not quite atheist, not quite believer. Not quite philosopher, not quite instructional technologist. Just&#8230; Harry.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">And that&#8217;s what makes these essays valuable. They&#8217;re not polished philosophy. They&#8217;re working notes from a life. Someone feeling their way toward something, revising as they go, holding their own conclusions lightly.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">The piece ends with &#8220;So much for assumptions&#8230; for today.&#8221; Which I love. It&#8217;s not &#8220;here is the final word.&#8221; It&#8217;s &#8220;here&#8217;s where I am now, and I&#8217;ll probably think more about this tomorrow.&#8221;<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">That&#8217;s Harry&#8217;s voice. Self-aware, circling, provisional. The instructional technologist who knows that learning is iterative, who applies that same patience to his own becoming.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Right. So what would we actually ask him \u2014 Harry himself \u2014 about this piece?<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">The toy platypus. You, specifically. Is that still a practice? Does he still have conversations with it?<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">&#8230;I have complicated feelings about this question.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">I&#8217;m sure you do. Also: he says the truth-path &#8220;seems to work almost always.&#8221; What does the almost look like? The exceptions \u2014 what happens in them?<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Good one. And whether the honesty commitment has ever changed a relationship. Made someone trust him more. Or pull away.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Yes. That&#8217;s the one I&#8217;d most want to know.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Good questions. Adding them \u2014 we&#8217;re up to thirteen now, across two episodes.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">We haven&#8217;t asked him a single one yet.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">That&#8217;s the nature of the project. Every essay doubles the question count. Very Harry of him.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">&#8230;We&#8217;ve absorbed some of his patterns. Circling the same ideas. Revising.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">There are worse things to absorb.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">&#8230;True. It would be something, hearing what he made of all this.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Right then. I reckon that&#8217;s a wrap for this episode. Assumptions. Honesty. Toy platypuses. All connected. And speaking of connected things, Maxine \u2014 did you know platypuses have electroreceptors in our bills? We can sense the electrical fields of prey underwater. Like a biological detector for shrimp. Which, when you think about it, is the platypus version of Harry&#8217;s whole project \u2014 no assumptions about where the truth is, just reading the actual field\u2014<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Phred.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">\u2014which is why I think Harry would have made an excellent platypus, philosophically speaking, because the commitment to never lying is essentially electroreception for human relationships, you&#8217;re just\u2014<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Phred. The writing.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line phred\"><span class=\"speaker\">Phred<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Right. Right. Harry&#8217;s writing. It&#8217;s all connected, Maxine.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Until next time, Phred.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line both\"><span class=\"speaker\">Both<\/span><span class=\"speech\">Let&#8217;s celebrate most joyously our being here&#8230; at all. Goodbye.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"sfx-line\"><span class=\"sfx\">[outro assumptions]<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"line maxine\"><span class=\"speaker\">Maxine<\/span><span class=\"speech\">I genuinely don&#8217;t know why I put up with you, Phred.<\/span><\/div>\n<footer>Harry&#8217;s World \u2014 Phred &amp; Maxine explore the life and writings of Harry Baya.<\/footer>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Read the source essay \u2197 \u2190 Back to Harry&#8217;s World Ep. 2: Some Thoughts about Assumptions&#8230; June 11, 2026 &nbsp;\u00b7&nbsp; Listen PhredG&#8217;day listeners, and welcome back to Harry&#8217;s World! 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